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Kenny Ingalls

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Fails WP:SPORTSCRIT. Only primary sources provided. LibStar (talk) 12:02, 26 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Zachary David

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Per WP:DEL#8: Doesn't meet GNG, WP:NSPORTS or WP:NMOTORSPORT. Nobody (talk) 07:35, 26 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Mark Carlson (speedway rider)

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Fails WP:SPORTSCRIT, only primary sources provided. Nothing found when searching ["Mark Carlson" speedway] LibStar (talk) 03:14, 26 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete – WP:NOTDATABASE, sources are available but all primary or database entries. No claim of notability. 5225_C (talk • contributions) 06:56, 26 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Henry Long (speedway rider)

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Fails WP:SPORTSCRIT, only primary sources provided. Nothing found when searching ["Henry Long " speedway] LibStar (talk) 03:11, 26 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Kim Yu-song (footballer, born 2003)

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Article fails WP:GNG. Simione001 (talk) 02:58, 26 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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If he has played for the North Korean national team at the Asian Games, he does appear to be notable enough. 93.117.220.196 (talk) 10:59, 26 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ke Seung-woon

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Article fails WP:GNG. Redirect to 1966 World Cup team. Simione001 (talk) 02:55, 26 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Kang Sun-il

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Article fails WP:GNG. Simione001 (talk) 02:53, 26 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Ju Song-il

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Article fails WP:GNG. Simione001 (talk) 02:50, 26 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Marek Małecki

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Equestrian who does not satisfy sports notability. There are two references. The first one is a database entry, and database entries do not establish sports notability. The second is an obituary, which may count toward general notability but is the only significant source. He competed in the Olympics, but does not have Olympic notability because he did not receive a medal.

Reference Number	Reference	Comments	Independent	Significant	Reliable	Secondary
1	https://www.sports-reference.com/olympics/athletes/ma/marek-malecki-1.html	A Wayback Machine copy of a database entry of sports statistics	Yes	No	Yes	No
2	hejnakon.pl	Obituary in Polish equestrian magazine.	Yes	Yes	Yes	Yes

The Heymann criterion is to find additional sources within six days.

Draftify as nominator, to allow six months to find better coverage. Robert McClenon (talk) 01:07, 26 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Florinel Sandu

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I was not able to find WP:SIGCOV sources for this footballer. The best I could find was this. Geschichte (talk) 14:46, 25 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete – Fails in WP:GNG. Svartner (talk) 23:06, 25 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Oliver Burian

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With only primary sources listed, the article of this men's footballer clearly fails WP:GNG. He played nine minutes at the highest domestic league before being sent on loan to second tier then disappeared. Using the keyword "Oliver Burian", search engines mostly find other men of the same name than this footballer, failing WP:V too. My searches showed nothing better than match reports and passing mentions in online newspapers. ⋆｡˚꒰ঌ Clara A. Djalim ໒꒱˚｡⋆ 12:39, 25 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete, no basis for an encyclopedic article. Geschichte (talk) 14:30, 25 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete, seems that he hasn't disappeared completely, but moved to the third, and now, fourth tier of Slovak football (non-league). At that level there is no chance of new significant coverage, and agree that anything existing is far below the required standard. C 679 15:12, 25 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete – Fails in WP:GNG. Svartner (talk) 23:06, 25 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Sérgio Rafael

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Does not meet WP:SPORTSCRIT, Sports biographies must include at least one reference to a source providing significant coverage of the subject, excluding database sources. Searching only uncovers further database sources and a very limited number of primary sources. C 679 12:09, 25 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 17:05, 25 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comment – The player actually had a modest career, but there are some sources in the local media [1], [2], [3]. Is at the limit of WP:GNG in my opinion. Svartner (talk) 23:05, 25 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Jaroslav Volf (speedway rider)

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Not notable sportsperson without notable sporting achievements. Sources only refer to sports results. Searching the internet for "Jaroslav Volf" shows other people with the same name. Same case as the recently nominated Bedřich Slaný. FromCzech (talk) 05:56, 25 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep: Clearly notable because he competed in the final of the Speedway World Cup, the sport's pinnacle AND reached the final of the Speedway individual world championship. Pyeongchang (talk) 08:43, 25 July 2024 (UTC) — Note to closing admin: Pyeongchang (talk • contribs) is the creator of the page that is the subject of this AfD. [reply]
The sport's pinnacle are the Olympic Games and athletes do not meet the condition of notability just by participating in them. If you say 'keep' you have to objectively demonstrate notability according to WP:GNG and WP:NMOTORSPORT. FromCzech (talk) 09:11, 25 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Note: The Olympic Games are not the sports pinnacle, there is no speedway at the Olympic Games as is the case for numerous other sports. For information the pinnacle of speedway is the World Individual championships (now called the Grand Prix) and the World Cup. I have since added additional references from books and Newspaper Archive. Pyeongchang (talk) 09:22, 25 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete – Unimpressed by the sources available. Routine recaps of events in local papers are not significant coverage of the individual. There is attempt to claim significance in the article. Wikipedia is not a database (WP:NOTDATABASE). 5225_C (talk • contributions) 07:04, 26 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Fails WP:SPORTSCRIT. The non speedway sources do not appear in depth. LibStar (talk) 12:19, 26 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Moath Al Qadi

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This player has not played at the international level, nor in a fully professional league. فيصل (talk) 06:07, 25 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 17:05, 25 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete – Even the basic information is incomplete. Svartner (talk) 23:08, 25 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Karel Průša

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Not notable sportsperson without notable sporting achievements. Sources refer to sports results except for one, which is an interview with the person concerned. Searching the internet for "Karel Průša" shows other people with the same name. Same case as the recently nominated Bedřich Slaný. FromCzech (talk) 06:03, 25 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep: Clearly notable because he competed in the final of the Speedway World Cup, the sport's pinnacle. Pyeongchang (talk) 08:44, 25 July 2024 (UTC) — Note to closing admin: Pyeongchang (talk • contribs) is the creator of the page that is the subject of this AfD. [reply]
The sport's pinnacle are the Olympic Games and athletes do not meet the condition of notability just by participating in them. If you say 'keep' you have to objectively demonstrate notability according to WP:GNG and WP:NMOTORSPORT. FromCzech (talk) 09:10, 25 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Note: The Olympic Games are not the sports pinnacle, there is no speedway at the Olympic Games as is the case for numerous other sports. For information the pinnacle of speedway is the World Individual championships (now called the Grand Prix) and the World Cup. I have since added additional references from books and Newspaper Archive. Pyeongchang (talk) 09:19, 25 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Bedřich Slaný

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Not notable sportsperson without notable sporting achievements. Sources only refer to passing mentions and sports results. Searching the internet for "Bedřich Slaný" shows other people with the same name. FromCzech (talk) 05:35, 25 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment: The Czech version cs:Bedřich Slaný of the article says (without a reference) that he died on 11 October 1980. Perhaps a news article about him or an obituary in a reliable source was published shortly after his death. Someone with access to Czechoslovak news media from 1980 might want to search for references from October 1980. The Wikipedia Library would also be worth searching. If you find one or more useful references, please add them to the Czech version cs:Bedřich Slaný as well., Eastmain (talk • contribs) 06:21, 25 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: Clearly notable because he competed in the final of the Speedway World Cup, the sport's pinnacle. Pyeongchang (talk) 08:41, 25 July 2024 (UTC) — Note to closing admin: Pyeongchang (talk • contribs) is the creator of the page that is the subject of this AfD. [reply]
The sport's pinnacle are the Olympic Games and athletes do not meet the condition of notability just by participating in them. If you say 'keep' you have to objectively demonstrate notability according to WP:GNG and WP:NMOTORSPORT. FromCzech (talk) 09:09, 25 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Note: The Olympic Games are not the sports pinnacle, there is no speedway at the Olympic Games as is the case for numerous other sports. For information the pinnacle of speedway is the World Individual championships (now called the Grand Prix) and the World Cup. I have since added additional references from books and Newspaper Archive. Pyeongchang (talk) 09:22, 25 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Of course, I meant in general that if for Olympic sports the participation of an athlete in the Olympics is not a criterion of notability, the participation of a speedway racer in the Speedway World Cup is also not a criterion of notability. The sources you have added here and elsewhere do not demonstrate notability according to Wikipedia criteria.
Redirect to 1962 Speedway World Team Cup may be an alternative to deletion. FromCzech (talk) 09:40, 25 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect, we do not have sources demonstrating GNG is met, only passing mentions. JoelleJay (talk) 23:40, 25 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

McCall Salmon

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Subject lacks the needed reliable coverage from independent sources to meet the WP:GNG as a BLP. The sources currently in the article are either school websites or student newspapers, neither of which are independent. A check for coverage elsewhere didn't reveal anything more. Let'srun (talk) 00:14, 25 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete: no independent sources and none found online '''[[User:CanonNi]]''' (talk • contribs) 05:07, 25 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Adrian Baril

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After extensive searching for WP:SIGCOV in multiple newspaper archives, I believe the subject lacks the coverage needed to meet the WP:GNG. This obit [[4]] is rather short and doesn't make mention of his NFL career. Besides the obit, there are some passing/routine mentions like [[5]], [[6]], [[7]] and [[8]] but from what I see it is all trivial. While the subject played 16 NFL games, they took place in the early years of the league when the popularity of the league was nowhere near what it is today. I don't see a clear WP:ATD here but am open to the possibility. Let'srun (talk) 00:08, 25 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Devin Boyce

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I am unable to find enough coverage of this American soccer player to meet WP:GNG. All I came across was this blog post and a few sentences here. JTtheOG (talk) 20:08, 24 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 17:04, 25 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Henry Margenson

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Subject does not meet the WP:GNG due to a lack of WP:SIGCOV. Could be redirected to List of United States men's international soccer players as a WP:ATD. Let'srun (talk) 19:58, 24 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Redirect to List of United States men's international soccer players as ATD. Giant Snowman 17:04, 25 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Skyler Milne

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I am unable to find enough coverage of this American soccer player to meet WP:GNG. A few sentences here, a pair of sentences here, but nothing significant. JTtheOG (talk) 04:00, 24 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 18:20, 24 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ju Kyong-shik

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Article fails WP:GNG. Simione001 (talk) 02:02, 24 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 18:20, 24 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Nate Shultz

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I am unable to find enough independent coverage of this American soccer player to meet WP:GNG. The closest to WP:SIGCOV I found was this interview. JTtheOG (talk) 01:29, 24 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 18:20, 24 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: Not finding the needed WP:SIGCOV to meet the WP:GNG here. Let'srun (talk) 01:42, 26 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ju Kwang-min

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Article fails WP:GNG. Simione001 (talk) 01:12, 24 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 18:19, 24 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect - to 2015 AFC Asian Cup squads#North Korea. Lâm (talk) 08:39, 25 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Amar Mehta

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Fails the figure skating notability guidelines. Competed, but did not medal at the World Junior Figure Skating Championships. Astaire (talk) 23:19, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete: Unable to find the requisite WP:SIGCOV to meet the WP:GNG for this BLP. Let'srun (talk) 23:42, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. Fails WP:NSKATE. PROD was previously removed without explanation. Bgsu98 (Talk) 23:46, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Mike Gregorian

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Subject does not meet the WP:GNG due to a lack of WP:SIGCOV. The best source I could find is [[9]] which only covers the subject for a few sentences. Let'srun (talk) 21:48, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete. No WP:SIGCOV to prove notability. Prof.PMarini (talk) 23:42, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Redirect to List of United States men's international soccer players as possible search term. Giant Snowman 18:21, 24 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
No issues with a redirect. Let'srun (talk) 18:51, 24 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect as above. C 679 10:33, 25 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Daryll Meggatt

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Fails GNG. A search in the archives found no SIGCOV just mentions in match reports. Dougal18 (talk) 13:56, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete: Found a few interviews (1, 2), but nothing approaching WP:SIGCOV. JTtheOG (talk) 06:31, 24 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 18:19, 24 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Lean towards Keep Per sources above, plus [10], [11], [12], [13], [14], [15], [16], And he has played way over 100 professional football league games in Scotland. I don't get why you want to delete such an article on professional Scottish footballer. @GiantSnowman: Take your pick on sources, there are loads more tabloid articles on the guy. That's just my five minutes of looking. And I bet there are OFFLINE also! :/ Govvy (talk) 21:51, 24 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment You have linked to 7 sources. The first 6 are namedrops that do not provide SIGCOV of Meggatt. The seventh is from the Scottish Sun which is an unreliable source. NFOOTBALL is no more so stop making the appearances argument. Dougal18 (talk) 08:42, 25 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  Agree with Dougal I'm afraid - none of these are SIGCOV, and the Sun is trash. Giant Snowman 16:24, 25 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  - I don't know why you guys don't do the research or look for sources. Dougal18 has absolutely no interest in constructing wikipedia articles from my point of view. He constantly wants to delete what I call decent articles. Like I said above that's what I found in five minutes yesterday, yes the article is heavy on primary sources and sport stat sources. I provided an assortment of some basic secondary to back the primary sources up, (that's why I said lean towards keep I didn't say straight out keep.) But that doesn't negative anything, I never mentioned NFOOTBALL either, I go by WP:BASIC, and so many many people seem to ignore you can have a build on secondary sources. Take one of Scotlands newspaper websites go enter his name and see what you find. For instance, The Scottish Herald, how many results are there. A non notable person wouldn't have that many results for his name. People go on about it's always routine coverage! But all football is pretty much routine now, it's a paradoxical sport, routine coverage is not a bad thing and the more the better. SIGCOV pfft, you don't need to follow so blindly a policy and yes it's a policy it's not a rule of state. Apart from JTtheOG no one else provided sources, I've done just that and yet you want to persecute my findings. That really is pathetic and bias towards deletion without a true peer review. Govvy (talk) 09:49, 26 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. Nowhere close to SIGCOV. JoelleJay (talk) 20:47, 25 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Adonis Amaya

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I am unable to find enough coverage of this American soccer player to meet WP:GNG or WP:SPORTCRIT. The most I found were a few sentences of coverage here. JTtheOG (talk) 22:12, 22 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 18:19, 24 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: All that appears to be here is routine game coverage, with nothing that can be considered WP:SIGCOV. Let'srun (talk) 11:56, 25 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Jared Mazzola

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I am unable to find sufficient coverage of this American soccer player to meet WP:GNG or WP:SPORTCRIT. JTtheOG (talk) 20:40, 22 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete: Brief ESPN bio [17] and routine transfer mentions [18], neither of which are useful for notability here. Sourcing in the article is of the same quality, non-helpful. Oaktree b (talk) 21:30, 22 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: Nothing is here besides routine transactional info, with a failure of the WP:GNG. Let'srun (talk) 00:01, 24 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 18:18, 24 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

João Paulo (footballer, born June 1984)

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Does not meet WP:SPORTSCRIT, Sports biographies must include at least one reference to a source providing significant coverage of the subject, excluding database sources. Google search on the name brought back nothing other than database sources. Soccerway link on the page with the corresponding DoB confirms he played one season in the Portuguese third tier in 2013-14. C 679 11:52, 22 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - per nominator, clearly it does not satisfy WP:SPORTSCRIT Warm Regards, Miminity (talk) (contribs) 12:02, 22 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete indeed missing the WP:SIGCOV for WP:GNG. (To complete what nom said there are also user-generated sources next to the database references, even though that doesn't change anything). — Alien333 (what I did & why I did it wrong) 14:27, 22 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to CD Operário#Notable players. I found no indication that he meets WP:SIGCOV. Tau Corvi (talk) 16:44, 22 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete – Per lack of WP:V. Svartner (talk) 04:52, 24 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 18:12, 24 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ju Jong-chol

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Article fails WP:GNG. Simione001 (talk) 22:09, 21 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete: Doesn't seem to pass WP:SPORTCRIT—I only see database sources, no significant coverage. Bsoyka (t • c • g) 22:43, 21 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete – The Chinese article doesn't provide any significant coverage of him despite being longer. ⋆｡˚꒰ঌ Clara A. Djalim ໒꒱˚｡⋆ 12:46, 22 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. No significant coverage and fails WP:GNG. Prof.PMarini (talk) 13:02, 22 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete not notable --Loewstisch (talk) 11:32, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete – Per total lack of WP:V. Svartner (talk) 04:51, 24 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 18:18, 24 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Michal Klec

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This Slovak men's footballer played in his country from 2013 until 2016 before moving to lower leagues in the Czech Republic and Poland. Secondary sources analysis from my searches through translation:

Žilinský Večerník is a blogspot containing an interview with just secondary content in the opening paragraph.
SME seems to be a decent source mentioning Klec scoring a hat-trick.
Dnes24 is a transfer announcement of him moving to Třinec on loan.
Dziennik Polski is another transfer announcement to Puszcza Niepołomice.

In my opinion, none of those sources above actually approach WP:SIGCOV that are required for encyclopedia. I have checked corresponding articles on him in other Wikipedia languages, but all of them likewise provide match reports, primary sources, and database. ⋆｡˚꒰ঌ Clara A. Djalim ໒꒱˚｡⋆ 13:46, 21 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete. Doesn't look like he meets WP:NSPORT or WP:GNG. I haven't found any reliable RS about him.Tau Corvi (talk) 20:24, 21 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. Indeed, there doesn't seem to be enough WP:SIGCOV to meet WP:GNG. Prof.PMarini (talk) 02:44, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 18:18, 24 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Mélanie Charles

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Fails WP:SPORTSCRIT. No third party sources. A google news search comes up with a namesake jazz musician who seems more notable. LibStar (talk) 10:09, 21 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete: Not notable. Apart from already cited article, nothing comes up. Changeworld1984 (talk) 11:10, 21 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. There is only one source listed in the article, and I couldn’t find any others. If you manage to do this, please ping me. Tau Corvi (talk) 20:34, 21 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. I agree with the above. Bduke (talk) 23:32, 21 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete I per nom, above. I couldn't find a sinlge article even mentioning her via a Newsbank database search. Fails GNG. Cabrils (talk) 00:15, 24 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Arturo López Castro

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could not find secondary sources besides the BoxRec website that's already used as (the only) source LR.127 (talk) 06:11, 21 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete. I didn't find anything that said passing WP:GNG or WP:NBOX. I also don’t know where the article can be redirected. Tau Corvi (talk) 20:47, 21 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Rudy Orea

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Fails WP:GNG and WP:SPORTCRIT. Only one source, which is partly a primary source, about him "going back" to amateur football. Only made one cup appearance for Bordeaux as a regular B team player. Paul Vaurie (talk) 11:52, 20 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete. Doesn't pass WP:SIGCOV. Tau Corvi (talk) 19:31, 20 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 11:07, 21 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Vladimír Kinier

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Redirect to 1990 FIFA World Cup squads#Czechoslovakia because I could not find any in-depth coverage of this former men's footballer to meet WP:GNG. I've checked Wikipedia articles in other languages, but most of them only provide database sources. Corresponding article on Slovak Wikipedia, which may help copy over English article, is slightly longer and listed the clubs he has/had played for... but SKwiki likewise does not provide any decent coverage. ⋆｡˚꒰ঌ Clara A. Djalim ໒꒱˚｡⋆ 09:48, 20 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep. The WP:BEFORE on this AFD looks quite pitiful. The top Google hit is one example of the FIFA World Cup player meeting WP:GNG and WP:SUSTAINED. Geschichte (talk) 10:38, 20 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect as above. I've only found one secondary source that talks directly about him [19]. I think this is not enough to confirm the significance. The source Geschichte cites is an interview, that is, a primary source. Tau Corvi (talk) 19:59, 20 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep, per Geschichte. The source contains enough independent commentary on the subject to qualify as significant coverage. The source found by Tau Corvi is significant as well. A FIFA World Cup player is virtually certain to pass GNG, and its worth noting that we do not have access to 1990s Czechslovak newspapers. BeanieFan11 (talk) 20:54, 20 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Additionally, per Slovak Wikipedia Kinier totaled 260 top-tier appearances. BeanieFan11 (talk) 20:56, 20 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  - Comment Geschichte's source is an interview with Kinier where the only independent info is clubs/countries he played for and not playing in the 1984 Olympics. Tau Corvi's source is better but they aren't enough for a GNG pass. https://kramerius5.nkp.cz/ has Czech newspapers and https://dikda.snk.sk/ Slovak newspapers. His 260 top flight appearances are irrelevant. Dougal18 (talk) 09:05, 21 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    - His 260 top flight appearances are irrelevant. – Common. sense. For modern European players (I'm talking internet era), where we have full-access to sources, can you find anyone with 260 top-flight appearances who is non-notable? Can you find a single modern European FIFA World Cup player for which there is no sigcov? Why would the 1980s be any different? Tau Corvi's source satisfies WP:SPORTCRIT, which should be all that is needed to allow this to be kept given the subject. (As for the links you provide, I've never seen those websites before. How in-depth are their 1980s newspaper collections?) BeanieFan11 (talk) 16:09, 21 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
      - I don't know how in-depth the archives are. There are hits for him but I can't access the articles. Dougal18 (talk) 12:21, 22 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Keep per sources above which show notability. GiantSnowman 11:07, 21 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- To be fair, Dougal18 and Tau Corvi are correct. WP:SPORTSBASIC #5 states: Sports biographies must include at least one reference to a source providing significant coverage of the subject, excluding database sources. The source given by Tau Corvi looks like SIGCOV thing, but GNG requires multiple in-depth coverage as possible overall instead of just one. Even if the paywalled Sme newspaper contains SIGCOV, that is still not equivalent to GNG. ⋆｡˚꒰ঌ Clara A. Djalim ໒꒱˚｡⋆ 14:49, 21 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep, Kinier is still a local football legend in Žilina but as he played in communist Czechoslovakia online coverage of his career is not the best. However, there is in fact a full page coverage (not an interview) published by the Štart magazine in 1985. The magazine does not exist anymore, but the issue can be accessed by registered users through the digital repository of the Slovak National Library. Happy to improve the article further when/if I find more sources. Newklear007 (talk) 12:41, 22 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Snow keep – Mistaken nomination (once more time). Svartner (talk) 04:50, 24 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Snow keep per comments above, seems more than enough. Govvy (talk) 21:37, 24 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Esmaeil Gholizadeh

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Reviewed during NPP. No indication of wp:notability under GNG or SNG (which says that these must meet GNG) Of the sources, 2 are just database listings and the other is about a game where he is mentioned. North8000 (talk) 20:42, 19 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 08:36, 20 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - the only remotely RS I can find are brief mentions of him in reports of matches. It sounds like he might become notable as his career progresses, but right now is TOOSOON. StartGrammarTime (talk) 12:05, 20 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. Doesn’t meet WP:SIGCOV, coverage is too weak. Tau Corvi (talk) 21:13, 22 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete – Fails in WP:GNG. Svartner (talk) 04:47, 24 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Lisa-Anne Smith

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Fails WP:SPORTSCRIT and WP:NOLY. Only primary sources provided. LibStar (talk) 13:09, 19 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Redirect to Shooting at the 2000 Summer Olympics – Women's trap: Subject does not have the needed WP:SIGCOV to meet the WP:GNG. The current sources are all primary and a cursory search didn't reveal anything better. Let'srun (talk) 16:15, 20 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to Shooting at the 2000 Summer Olympics – Women's trap#Qualification round. I found no evidence of passage WP:GNG. Tau Corvi (talk) 19:32, 21 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ravindra Lakmal

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Although subject may be covered by WP:NCRICKET (Additionally, cricketers who have played at the highest domestic level [...] may have sufficient coverage about them to justify an article, but it should not be assumed to exist without further proof), with a single appearance for a club side more than 20 years ago, there is no indication the subject has received significant coverage to pass the general notability guideline. C 679 10:19, 17 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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I am also nominating the following related page for the same reason:

Comment - either one article is the problem or thousands. And if we isolate individual articles - in both English and non-English speaking countries - this does nothing to solve the problem we've landed ourselves in. Bobo . 17:30, 17 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. I haven't found any WP:SIGCOV confirmation. Tau Corvi (talk) 15:12, 18 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Relisting comment: Previous WP:PROD candidate, ineligible for soft deletion.
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Zaine Kennedy

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Fails WP:SPORTSCRIT. Almost all the sourcing is not third party but speedway related. LibStar (talk) 01:30, 12 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep. The fact that the sources are related to the speedway does not make them non-independent. Per WP:GNG "Independent of the subject" excludes works produced by the article's subject or someone affiliated with it. These sources could be considered affiliated with him if, for example, he were their owner. I would add a few more secondary sources [20] [21] [22] Tau Corvi (talk) 22:01, 15 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I have set up a discussion here Wikipedia:Reliable_sources/Noticeboard#Speedway_related_sources. LibStar (talk) 23:48, 15 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: I saw the RSN discussion first, so I do not plan to vote, but to give my opinion from my limited perspective. Having taken a look at Scunthorpe Scorpions, which looks like two different teams on one article, I can count about five dozen riders that have articles. Of the "Notable riders," most of them use "speedway related sources" in their articles with British Speedway cited between two and three dozen times. (More problematic, but farther outside of the discussion is that at least one article is citing sources that are MREL and GUNREL.)

Overall, the issue over the specific sources is going to have an effect on other articles. If deemed a problem, then there will need to be more AfD discussions in the near future; while if deemed acceptable could lead to additional article creations. I am of the opinion that redirects to the team articles could be more preferred than deletion and that some information might be includable in the various team articles. That said, I am unsure if the sources are a problem on these rider articles. --Super Goku V (talk) 06:19, 16 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete per nom. Lacking in WP:SIGCOV. SpacedFarmer (talk) 20:49, 22 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete – Minimal significant coverage, no real claim of notability. 5225_C (talk • contributions) 08:09, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete: This BLP lacks the needed WP:SIGCOV to meet the WP:GNG. Let'srun (talk) 16:32, 25 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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2 of the 3 sources brought up are not independent as discussed in reliable sources. The article subject still fails WP:SPORTSCRIT and WP:BIO. LibStar (talk) 01:35, 26 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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