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That page is on my watch list, and when I saw the addition that had "... at Tuesday's meeting." I knew it must be copied from something (and it was the newspaper). Bubba73You talkin' to me?23:00, 26 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Hi Sam, since you moved the series of UNESCO articles, is there a centralized discussion on that or what rule did you follow? As the standard keeps changing a couple of times per year, I'd just like to know what we are following at the moment :) Cheers! Tone16:37, 3 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Hi YBAhmed! Thank you for your mail. I still do not see the sourcing provided in Draft:Center for Technological Innovation and Entrepreneurship as sufficient for a pass of our natability guideline, and the draft very much reads as an About page for the centre. You have already added more or less the same material to the parent article Católica Lisbon School of Business & Economics, and I created a redirect from Center for Technological Innovation and Entrepreneurship to the relevant section in the article. Your intentions quote "I am a student in the university ... offered to help them with their activities because I saw what they are doing and they deserve recognition and exposure" are noble, and such intentions are often what drives people to Wikipedia in the first place. It is, however, a misunderstanding: Wikipedia is not a platform for exposure, Wikipedia is where we try to write about subjects that have already been exposed. I hope we can retain you for the project, we always need more editors; perhaps join Wikipedia:WikiProject Portugal? Best, Sam 14:00, 6 June 2019 (UTC)
@Shenme: Now deleted, but you may ask Fastily if a WP:REFUND applies here. If my memory serves me well, the text consisted of two or three lines of text more or less identical to the intro in other solar eclipse articles, and a table with values for the eclipse. Best, Sam 05:32, 7 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Wikipedia entry for David Zabecki
Hi, Sam -
I'm a new contributor, having become one in part to help MGen Zabecki, an erstwhile colleague of mine. He surveyed the his Wikipedia entry and was aghast at the factually incorrect information it contained. The alterations come directly from him, including the biographical passage, which he earlier composed for another purpose.
What is required to make the necessary changes permanent? Any suggestions you could offer would be welcome.
Guten Abend, Marcus, und herzlich wilkommen bei Englischen Wikipedia. If the article contains factually incorrect information, it needs to be addressed. You are welcome to edit the article yourself, but you should realize that you have a conflict of interest that can make neutral editing difficult. The more technical aspects of referencing what one writes to reliable sources can be a bit of a challenge in the beginning as well. A likely better way forward is to start a new section on Talk:David T. Zabecki, then I and, I am sure, K.e.coffman, the editor who started the article, will have a look at your suggestions. MfG,SamSailor19:56, 7 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Oh no not this again! :P This IP hopping editor has been pestering the HD for about a week now; making such a nuisance of himself that he was blocked at one stage. (Don't know if you aware of the history here.) Every question we answer or demand we 'comply' with, he'll come up with something else. Cheers. Eagleash (talk) 21:09, 7 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
@Eagleash: Well, that IP (223.230.168.24(talk·contribs·WHOIS)) could have been handled in a better way than just the mechanical series of uw-vand1-4 and a 31h block to begin with. Their remark in the infobox was well intended, and you deserve credit for being the one who fixed it. As for their requests to HD in re the same article, sure, there's a certain juvenile urgency to them, but they sound honest to me, so I would not call that pestering. SamSailor21:38, 7 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
I hadn't seen that IP before as it goes. I would definitely call it pestering though (trouble or annoy with persistent requests etc.); see HD archives 2 June and previously. It was that IP that was blocked following multiple requests at the help desk. Eagleash (talk) 21:58, 7 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
I would like to ask you something as I am a New user about RM/TR.
What should I do if I had made RM requests and there are no discussions taking place in the talk/discussion page?
Can I make a bold move?
Sai199610 (talk) 17:26, 16 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
@Sai199610: You are so welcome to ask questions. RMs run normally for seven days. Have patience and await other editors to join the discussions. Sometimes an RM will be relisted and run 14 days. I don't think it is good form to first open an RM, then close it and boldly move. But if you think a move is uncontroversial, most articles can be boldly moved in the first place without an RM. Do check out the article history and the talk page and its archive before moving. If there has been one or more prior RM discussions, consider if it is best to open a new discussion rather than boldly moving. Details at WP:RM. Naming convention docs are in Category:Wikipedia naming conventions. HTH, SamSailor19:14, 16 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
No, the discussion at Talk:Chhatrapati Shivaji Terminus railway station is not closed, it has only been open for three days. In four-five days from now, someone will close it. Unless it is relisted for a further seven days. Two rules of thumb in regards to RMs: if you are either the one who opened it or just have participated in the discussion, do not (in almost all cases) close the discussion or move the article. Leave it to an experienced, uninvolved editor. SamSailor18:44, 18 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
No problem, Sai199610, I'm happy if I can help. Wikipedia is very complex, so it is fairly easy to make good-faith mistakes if one is unacquainted with the guidelines and common practices in a given area. So it is great that you ask questions in the beginning. SamSailor06:57, 19 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
@Sam Sailor: Hi! Sorry to trouble you multiple times. This time I would like to make a request! Please visit Talk:Mumbai Central railway station/STATION CODE. A user has been repeatedly making changes at Mumbai Central railway station station code. I have provided a primary source: apress release from the railway's website and also a secondary source: a newspaper article proving the same. But this user is arguing constantly and not ready to accept it. I had made a change in the code but due to his reluctant behaviour he is constantly changing it. The current code is "MMCT" which I tried to change from "BCT" which he just kept changing back (I would request you to refer the sources that I have provided for Mumbai Central and Mumbai CSMT on their talk pages i.e., the official ones as well as the newspaper article). The same behaviour was also observed in Chhatrapati Shivaji Terminus railway station and Panvel railway station. Refer Talk:Chhatrapati Shivaji Terminus railway station/STATION CODE. Here also you can see his disruptive behaviour and arguing nature. Another "Experienced user" accepted the source I provided in the same talk page. But this user is not ready to accept the change as well as his mistake. As per WP:RS a secondary source like a newspaper article is more reliable. But he has provided a station code table as reference which is an official primary source that too of the year 2015 which show no current changes. He is on the track stating he has provided 7 sources from the official website (a primary source) which are also older than that of the press release at Talk:Mumbai Central railway station/STATION CODE. I can go ahead with the changing but I fear it may lead to an edit warring and may ban the user. You can visit his talk page you will find multiple edit warring warnings to which also he had argued. I would like you to visit the above mentioned pages and make the relevant changes in the article and warn him (the user). I had requested as well as warned but it does not seem to work. If this behaviour persists I may need to request for a ban on the user. Thanking You, Regards, Sai199610 (talk) 15:47, 26 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
@Sai199610: The discussion on Talk:Mumbai Central railway station#STATION CODE (permalink) is a normal content dispute, and you have to resolve it between yourselves. I know nothing about Indian railway station codes, and I can not be of any good help there. You could politely and neutrally ask Fowler&fowler to have a look at it, but you should not go and ask people to "make the relevant changes in the article and warn him (the user)". Two of the most important things on Wikipedia is that we maintain a high degree of politeness towards each other and that we work together even when we disagree. You are your own worst enemy when you start a talk page discussion with "Do not edit war with the station code." Please consider taking a day off now and then. And if you get any feelings of anger when you edit here, turn off the computer and meditate an hour or two. All the best, SamSailor16:30, 26 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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My page Kiran Dubey was not published citing lack of references according to Wikipedia standards . Could you please guide exactly what type of references are required. And any additional correction,if there .
Thanks ! Eeshu167 (talk) 20:51, 20 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for sorting out the page move, and associated edits (although I see HBMS is still displayed in some pipe links where you have corrected the link bit).
Hi, IP. You're welcome, and thanks for noticing. Double check me and see if the HBMS errors are all fixed now. As for RFA, no need to rush things, I've only been here for six years. ;) Take care, SamSailor08:57, 21 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks and welcome sir. I suffer from mild OCD, so whenever someone thanks my edit, I've have an urge to say welcome and post a Kitty Wikilove. I feel like I'm not grateful enough if I don't do it. Have to restrain it though . I also have this urge to 'thank' vandalism reverts as well. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 10:17, 21 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Hi KVDCom, I'm great, how are you? Draft:Pau Guardans is in queue for review, it may take up to eight weeks. It does need some copy-editing, several lines sound like something I would expect in a promotional write-up. Are you being paid to write about him? Please do the TWA, I invited you on your talk page, and then join the normal editing of our encyclopedia. If you have any questions, you are always welcome to ask me here, or you can ask your question at the Teahouse, or join Wikipedia's Live HelpIRC channel to get real-time assistance. Happy editing, SamSailor13:36, 25 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
galaxyconsulting.net & copyvios
Hello. I noticed your Taxonomy (biology) revdel request and went digging out of curiosity. It looks as if Galaxy may be reusing Wikipedia content. See, for example, this comparison, which matches part of the Galaxy page with Taxonomy - but the revision of Taxonomy is from 15 September 2011, almost two months older than the Galaxy blog (assuming the date on their page is accurate). Another example: Galaxy's 'What is ontology?' blog entry matches Ontology (information science) from four months earlier. Of course it's still possible some of their copyrighted material was added to our articles (that recent bit you tagged on Taxonomy does look dodgy), but I thought you'd want to know. Cheers, BlackcurrantTea (talk) 11:21, 27 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
If you are sure it is a backwards copy, parts of it seem to come from https://www.quora.com/What-are-the-goals-of-taxonomy which ofcourse may also be a backwards copy, feel free to remove the template. It would be lovely if people attributed their reuse of material published under CC and did not post it as copyrighted. A minor flaw in the universal fabric of order, though. SamSailor11:57, 27 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
The woman on Quora's the owner of Galaxy. It's possible (perhaps likely, considering Ontology) that there's been some ebb and flow of text, and that it all originated on Wikipedia, but it would take more time than I care to spend to look through eight years of revisions. As I'm not certain the text in Taxonomy's a backwards copy, I won't remove the template. Cheers, BlackcurrantTea (talk) 13:09, 27 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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Hi Sam. I've been using your Sagittarius+ script to tag redirects in the NPP, but noticed it didn't mark the pages as patrolled after I had done so. I've made some changes at User:Wugapodes/Capricorn.js that adds this functionality. If a user is in the "patroller" user group, it adds a checkbox near the save button which, if checked, marks the page as patrolled in addition to adding the templates on save. If the user is not in that group no such box appears and the script should function normally. You can see the difference between the two scripts here. Let me know if you have any feedback, and feel free to incorporate it into your code if you like it. Best, Wugapodes[thɑk][ˈkan.ˌʧɹɪbz]07:26, 1 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Wonderful, thanks Wugapodes. Wouldn't you like to take over the maintenance entirely? I know far too little about javascript to properly maintain it, let alone code what you just showed me. Best, SamSailor07:30, 1 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
I'm not sure a redirect is the best option, but may be wrong. The conservative answer would be to just add a note/message box at the top of your documentation page that points to mine. That way current users know where the code they import is coming from. But in the grand scheme of things, it's probably not a huge deal, and users would (hopefully) notice the symbol change and click to learn more. It's your call since it's your js page. I'll copy over the CSS. Wugapodes[thɑk][ˈkan.ˌʧɹɪbz]08:58, 1 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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