Talk:Rosalina (Mario)
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Does Rosalina REALLY need her own article?
She's honestly not important to the overall Mario franchise. She only appears in Mario Galaxy and Mario Kart, but nowhere else. Is it really significant for her to have her own wikipedia article when other characters who had more involvement in the general Marioverse like Petey Piranha are relegated to the List of Mario series Characters? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.172.244.58 (talk) 21:37, 8 September 2012 (UTC)
Move Rosalina back to the List of Mario characters list.
She doesn't do anything of true significance in Mario Galaxy 1, and she does even less in Super Mario Galaxy 2 and both Mario Karts. She doesn't deserve her own page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.212.25.102 (talk) 17:39, 4 October 2012 (UTC)
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I think her name is actually Princess Rosalina, so you can add her name to make her Princess Rosalina if you wish to. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.6.155.19 (talk) 13:43, 28 February 2016 (UTC)
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Her name is actually Princess Rosalina.
Her name is actually Princess Rosalina, to be exact.
- Do you have a source? --ThomasO1989 (talk) 23:04, 11 April 2021 (UTC)
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Rosalina (Mario) → Rosalina (Nintendo) – We don't have Jill Biden's article at Jill Biden (Joe Biden), so how does this article get to be marked with a male she is associated with?? Georgia guy (talk) 22:56, 1 June 2021 (UTC)
- Support both Bowser and Pauline use Nintendo over Mario though I don’t see the Jill Biden example as apt since Mario in this case is referring to the Mario franchise not the character of the same name.--65.92.163.98 (talk) 23:36, 1 June 2021 (UTC)
Weak Support...OPPOSE (see below): It would make sense for it to match with other Mario-franchise characters like Toad (Nintendo) and Pauline (Nintendo). Also, while I too am a feminist, the reason "Mario" is in the title is because it's the name of the franchise from which Rosalina originates (not because it's the name of an associated character). Nonetheless, it should probably be consistent with those other pages. Paintspot Infez (talk) 23:46, 1 June 2021 (UTC)
- Depending on how this goes there may be a case for considering a move request of Link (The Legend of Zelda) to Link (Nintendo).--65.92.163.98 (talk) 23:50, 1 June 2021 (UTC)
- ...update: OPPOSE - Actually, thinking about it, it seems Toad (Nintendo) and Pauline (Nintendo) are exceptions. It looks like the reason they're at those titles is because those two are also prominent in spinoff franchises. Toad is prominent in the Captain Toad spinoff franchise, and Pauline is the then-unnamed lady in the first Donkey Kong. That's probably why. If Bowser wasn't the primary topic for "Bowser (character)", it would probably be at "Bowser (Mario)". Thus, I've changed my vote to Oppose. @Ortizesp, RicardoNixon97, and Iffy: Thoughts? Paintspot Infez (talk) 23:22, 5 June 2021 (UTC)
- Support per nom.--Ortizesp (talk) 03:26, 2 June 2021 (UTC)
- Support to match other Nintendo characters from the Mario franchise--RicardoNixon97 (talk) 12:36, 2 June 2021 (UTC)
- Support per WP:CONSISTENT, but if someone is primarily notable for being associated with a man, we should use that association as a disambiguator if necessary; and we should definitely not use an obscure version of that name (or some other violation of WP:CRITERIA) to get around the disambiguation problem. Iffy★Chat -- 13:51, 4 June 2021 (UTC)
- Iffy, can you name an example of a page you would have said oppose to for that very reason?? You supported this move so it's not an example, but can you name a RM that you would have said oppose to for the very reason you wrote?? Georgia guy (talk) 14:37, 4 June 2021 (UTC)
- If the RM currently at Talk:Carrie Symonds were to propose either Carrie Symonds-Johnson or Carrie Johnson (activist), I'd oppose those titles at that RM. Iffy★Chat -- 15:35, 4 June 2021 (UTC)
- Iffy, can you name an example of a page you would have said oppose to for that very reason?? You supported this move so it's not an example, but can you name a RM that you would have said oppose to for the very reason you wrote?? Georgia guy (talk) 14:37, 4 June 2021 (UTC)
- Oppose The entire nomination comment is misleading and inaccurate. We are not disambiguating based off of Mario (the character) we disambiguating based off of the Mario franchise, which happens to be named after the character (hence why it is in italics). Also WP:NCVGDAB#7 states: For characters: Disambiguate by appending the series or individual game title in parentheses after the character's name (e.g., Lulu (Final Fantasy) and Cid (Final Fantasy X)).. It makes no mention of using the video game company to disambiguate. This would also no consistent with character articles as a whole which tend to follow WP:NCVGDAB#7. Spy-cicle💥 Talk? 15:26, 4 June 2021 (UTC)
- Oppose per Spy-cicle. If you look at articles in the Category:Nintendo characters category tree, you'll see that the examples that people are advocating for consistency with (Toad (Nintendo) and Pauline (Nintendo)) are actually outliers. The majority of such articles use the name of the franchise to disambiguate, per the guideline cited by Spy-cicle. e.g. Brock (Pokémon), Lucina (Fire Emblem), Ridley (Metroid). I will concede that this form of disambiguation looks a little bit awkward when the franchise is named for a character, but there is still precedent for doing this, e.g.: Tails (Sonic the Hedgehog). But I'd be open to changing the disambiguator to something like (Mario franchise) if we think the gain in naturalness is worth the cost in conciseness. Colin M (talk) 03:22, 5 June 2021 (UTC)